The Politics Of Identity Politics

I find the media's collective uproar over whether or not Clinton played the gender card to be just plain silly. Given the extent to which the male gender card is played, swapped, and collected 24/7/365 on the network and cable news, their feigned outrage is not without irony.

The truth is that identity politics has been central to the political process since long-before the Roman Empire.  Further, every President in US history got there by playing some form of the male gender card.

Indeed, any objective view of the current Presidential field reveals that Clinton is not alone in trying to win over voters by means of identity politics.

Earlier in the campaign, when asked about any concern she had for her husband's safety, Michelle Obama replied:

"The realities are that . . . as a black man . . . Barack can get shot going to the gas station".

Obama himself appealed to fellow African Americans by citing the historic opportunity in electing the first African American during a recent swing through South Carolina:

"Now I've heard that some folks aren't sure America is ready for an African-American president. So let me be clear, I never would have begun this campaign if I weren't confident I could win. But you see, I am not asking anyone to take a chance on me. I am asking you to take a chance on your own aspirations."

For their part, the Edwards campaign has also utilized identity politics throughout their campaign.

When Elizabeth Edwards blamed the media for their campaign's poor press. She said:

"We can't make John black, we can't make him a woman".

During a recent swing through the south, John Edwards was accompanied by "good ol' boys" Mudcat Saunders and Cooter, from Dukes of Hazzard. During a speech addressing electability in the southern states, Edwards said:

"If you're running in a tough congressional district somewhere in America, anywhere in America, and I'm in one right now, okay, you gotta ask yourself would you rather have Senator Obama at the top of the ticket to help, Senator Clinton at the top of the ticket to help, or John Edwards at the top of the ticket to help. You got to have someone who is strong in all those places and who is not a drag on candidates who are trying to win in those places. The easiest way to do it, honestly, is to picture in your head each of us running in a tough place -- we're in one right now -- and which one's going to be more helpful and which one's not, because I think that does matter."

A few eyebrows were raised when the Edwards campaign highlighted Elizabeth's ongoing fight with cancer in its recent "Heros" ad. This same ad came under additional scrutiny for using only white Edward's supporters. Some even suggested that the non-diverse ad was an intentional effort to appeal to overwhelmingly-white Iowa caucus voters.

Personally, I think it's all OK!

Each candidate has the right to appeal to whomever they want, however they want. In turn, voters can exercise their right to vote for whatever reason they so chose.

The marketplace of ideas will always clear itself and the candidate with the most compelling argument wins.  Because, in the end, it's for the voters to decide which card is trump, not the media



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Re: The Politics Of Identity Politics (2.00 / 1)

Hey its Hillary Clinton, didn't you get the memo.

Chris Matthews sat their accusing Hillary Clinton playing the gender card ( which she didn't) while at the same time playing a clip of Obama playing up his race in South Carolina and he was grinning almost like a kid in the candy store about how great Obama was .

It was really baffling.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 11:59:25 AM EST

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Nothing wrong with the gender card. It's the "victim card" that's problematic. Those that complain about Hillary appealing to women voters are probably just jealous and miss the point.

What Clinton did was play the victim card, with her camp's insinuation that she was attacked because of gender and/or by the introduction of the notion that attacks on Hillary are less tasteful because she's a woman and her "attackers" were men.

Still, the Clinton camp is likely to win on this one because logic and principle are not important here. What is important is the righteous indignation that many women feel and the fact that they are a majority of the electorate.

Plus, then there is that men have been playing the gender card for centurie things, which is kinda hard to argue with. This is of course a very immature and simplisitc approach, but that makes it all the more effective.


"Well Hillary, I looking forward to you advising me as well." - Barack Obama
by General Sherman on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 12:45:59 PM EST
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Who is the victim getting shot at the gas station?  She hasn't played victim anymore than Obama.


by bookgrl on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 01:27:02 PM EST
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you are right , book . She never said she was being attacked because she was a woman.

She said she was being attacked , and in the eyes of the men in the media , that meant that she was playing the " victim card " i.e. saying she was being attacked because she was a woman.

If anyone can give me some evidence of where she said she was being attacked because of her gender then i will be willing to reevaluate my position , but you will not find it.

So she can never say she is being attacked anymore because it will somehow play into the insecurities and steroetypes of the male chattering class . Thats basically what happened.

Those fools in the media asked for her to be pummelled at the debate and they got what they wanted from the other candidates and the moderator and then she announces to the world that her opponent have changed their gameplan and are piling on her and all of a sudden she is playing the " victim card " ( sexist bull crap ) . Imagine if it was Obama in her position or any male candidate , who makes a video called the politics of pile on to express what happened at the debate will they be saying he is playing the " victim card " .

Its just the bull crap she has to deal with and handle . She is performing well.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 01:50:14 PM EST
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The victim card was indeed played. Why deny it when it will likely work? Hell, my significant other fell for it.


"Well Hillary, I looking forward to you advising me as well." - Barack Obama
by General Sherman on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 01:55:34 PM EST
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This is just stupid msm noise. When the votes are cast, they'll be stunned by their cluelessness again...


by prisonbreak on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 12:04:44 PM EST

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It's not about appealing to certain votes. Hell, it would be down right neglectful if Hillary didn't attempt a strong outreach to female voters--and yes, Hillary is a woman and that matters.

What I think most pepole take issues with is the idea that Clinton was being victimized at the debate BECAUSE of her gender. That's goes beyond generic legit identity politics.

I mean, but your score Obama could blame the long history of white supremacy for attacks on him. And Clinton is white too. Of course is Obama did that, his canidacy would rightfully be over.

Of course, none of the attacks on Obama, not even in that pile-on debate in Iowa, had anything to do with Obama's race.

Same thing with Hillary in Philly.

Those that balk at Hillary making overall gender appeals miss the point. That's fine. It's more the "victim card" that troubles me. And the victim card is what Hillary's camp played...and from the botton of the deck.

I'll tell you what, it's likely to be effective.


"Well Hillary, I looking forward to you advising me as well." - Barack Obama
by General Sherman on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 12:40:17 PM EST

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Again, who can't get a cab in NYC or is getting shot at the gas station?  Now I don't think Obama is playing victim, but Hillary certainly isnt.  Saying I withstood two hours of interrogation by these guys and I'm still standing, baby, is not playing victim.


by bookgrl on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 01:29:13 PM EST
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Uh....but Obama's people never insinutated that the other candidates were coming after him because of his race. That's the different. There is nothing wrong with Hillary of Obama mentioing challenges they face due to gender and race,


"Well Hillary, I looking forward to you advising me as well." - Barack Obama
by General Sherman on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 01:56:59 PM EST
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Can you point out where Hillary Clinton said they were coming after her because of her gender.

The fact that you have that perception doesn't make it so.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 02:04:24 PM EST
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Exactly, Lori.  Interesting that people come to that conclusion.


by bookgrl on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 04:06:29 PM EST
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By the way, as a black man in Washington DC I can personally attest to the difficulties in hailing a cab. But that doesn't mean that every interaction I have with non-blacks is determined by racism. Hillary's team floated the idea--via Mark Penn and know Ferraro--that because a bunch of men were attacking her, then sexism must be at play. I'm sure many women will beleive this, because of their own personal experiences. But in Hillary's case, it simply was not true. That's why Pelosi and others called her out.

Obama's was speaking about overall societal discrimination when he mentioned the taxi cab. If he'd accused his opponents or the moderator of discrimination than your analogy would be more apt.

You lack sophistication.


"Well Hillary, I looking forward to you advising me as well." - Barack Obama
by General Sherman on Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 10:05:43 AM EST
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It's not about appealing to certain votes. Hell, it would be down right neglectful if Hillary didn't attempt a strong outreach to female voters--and yes, Hillary is a woman and that matters.

What I think most pepole take issues with is the idea that Clinton was being victimized at the debate BECAUSE of her gender. That's goes beyond generic legit identity politics.

I mean, but your score Obama could blame the long history of white supremacy for attacks on him. And Clinton is white too. Of course is Obama did that, his canidacy would rightfully be over.

Of course, none of the attacks on Obama, not even in that pile-on debate in Iowa, had anything to do with Obama's race.

Same thing with Hillary in Philly.

Those that balk at Hillary making overall gender appeals miss the point. That's fine. It's more the "victim card" that troubles me. And the victim card is what Hillary's camp played...and from the botton of the deck.

I'll tell you what, it's likely to be effective.


"Well Hillary, I looking forward to you advising me as well." - Barack Obama
by General Sherman on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 12:40:26 PM EST

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Hillary does not play the victim.  There is no doubt at all that she has long been a target, but she's too professional and too smart to ever allow herself to become a victim.  Unlike Al Gore and John Kerry, by the way.

Go Hillary!!!!!!!  I am happy for her, that the WaPo/ABC poll came out BEFORE John Edwards silly interview with George Stepanopoulos today. And what a revealing interview it was.  John Edwards is an engine that is quickly running out of steam.

Sputter sputter.


by samueldem on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 01:43:42 PM EST

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The pile-on video put out by Hillary and her team was not "This was a pile-on boohoo" but "This was a pile-on haha".  The video was hilarious with the appropriately funny background music.  It will remain in my collection as one of the best videos of all time!  


by samueldem on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 01:47:17 PM EST

Victim card (none / 0)

This as to do with a woman who has presented herself as the toughest candidate, the candidate most able to stand up to the Republican attack machine, yet as soon as she's seriously challenged for the first time she doles out the victim card. And she did it as a means of excusing away a por debate performance.

Even if you believe she never intended to make hay out of the image of all those "boys" piling on, you have to admit she was trying to present herself as a sympathetic victim. Whether she played the gender card or not she certainly attempted to play the victim card.
And if you can give an example of a man in politics "playing the gender card" in such a way I'd love to hear it.

Obama concievably could get away with it because he's black. But he has too much class to do so.


by Mystylplx on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 04:43:01 PM EST

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First, Obama could not get away with it. If he played the race/victim card his race would be over. Second, I, as a black man, would not want him to get away with it. We face too many real challenges in the black community to have them cynically trivialized by politicians.


"Well Hillary, I looking forward to you advising me as well." - Barack Obama
by General Sherman on Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 10:07:51 AM EST
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Hillary didn't get away with it either, nor should she have.


by Mystylplx on Thu Nov 08, 2007 at 01:21:41 PM EST
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Hillary tried to play the gender card!! Apparently, when her pollster told her that was a dead-end, she changed her mind !(not surprising for Hillary anyway)

Flip-flopping and lying are her strenghts.


by win on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 04:48:52 PM EST


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